Girls Next Poor is the podcast for every creative trying to make magic on a budget. Hosted by influencer Vanessa Symoné and comedian Mimi Hayes, we’re two 30-something women navigating the chaos of chasing dreams while also trying to pay bills, stay sane, and avoid comparing ourselves to everyone on Instagram.

Each week, we get real about the highs, lows, and hilarious in-betweens of being a creative in your 30s—money struggles, identity crises, burnout, big wins, plot twists, and all the messy art that happens along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to build a creative life without losing your mind (or your wallet), you’re in the right place.