Girls Next Poor
Girls Next Poor is the podcast for every creative trying to make magic on a budget. Hosted by influencer Vanessa Symoné and comedian Mimi Hayes, we’re two 30-something women navigating the chaos of chasing dreams while also trying to pay bills, stay sane, and avoid comparing ourselves to everyone on Instagram.
Each week, we get real about the highs, lows, and hilarious in-betweens of being a creative in your 30s—money struggles, identity crises, burnout, big wins, plot twists, and all the messy art that happens along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to build a creative life without losing your mind (or your wallet), you’re in the right place.
Girls Next Poor
EP21: What's Going on This Week?
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We’re back after a tiny hiatus and we’ve got updates! Vanessa gets home from a transformative trip to Los Angeles (and comes clean about wanting to move there). Mimi is knee-deep in preparing for the Denver Fringe Festival for her new show featuring a delusional tour guide named Darluh (Dolly Parton wig and southern accent included). Join us this week at Fringe and later in the month for Blooming Affair!
Blooming Affair Kick-off Dinner:
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Hi, I'm Vanessa Simone.
SPEAKER_00And I'm Amy Hayes. And we are The Girls Next Poor.
SPEAKER_01Or the Next Poor. The girl next poor. Singular one girl next poor.
SPEAKER_00Hello. Welcome back. It's been a hot minute, righty.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I'm sad.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know it's kind of strange to take a little beat. But uh, we were busy. We've been busy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, so this episode is gonna be all about what's been going on the past few weeks, and we both have some fun updates and things to talk about. We're gonna publish this one immediately, yeah, which means you're gonna hear about things that are happening immediately that you can join and partake in today. Today, this evening. Um, so yeah, Vanessa, why don't you go first? What's what's been the most um the biggest thing for you in the past few weeks?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, I finally launched Blooming Affair again, 2026. Nice since 2024, and to be honest, it's been um terrifying. Everything is terrifying.
SPEAKER_00Can you tell us what that is for those that don't know?
SPEAKER_01Yes. So Blooming Affair is basically a group of women who are rebelling against the status quo of life. So instead of whatever your traditional or what society expects from you, it's women basically going against the grain. And how do you build a life that's not conventional, but still be able to survive, to make it? And a lot of this stemmed from a lot of me and my friends were really confused on where we want to go next in our lives. And so having access to people who may be further ahead, um, in terms of whether it's mentorship or just connections with other women, helping support women-owned businesses, all of these different things. Blooming Affair is that person, not that person, it is that company for basically women who want to change their life and they're kind of scared. So it gives you a community to be scared and change your life with.
SPEAKER_00So you have speakers, and you may have a dinner party coming up.
SPEAKER_01We do. So our dinner party is actually June 22nd, and it's actually with my friend, is she started her own chef business because she's been a chef, so it's called First Seating Collective, and so she does host events and private parties for people. So that our first event is June 22nd. It is on a Monday because I realized I just realized so many things about I realized A, my place is not open for a lot of the week, which is a good thing. Because of your Airbnb. Because of my Airbnb. And so, but we ended up doing it at my place because long story short, I'm trying to move to California, and my brain has been on California, and my brain has pretty much left. My brain is in California and my body is here. My body, yes, exactly. Physically, mentally exactly, exactly. And so because of that, we decided to keep it here in keep it at my place. So June 22nd, it's gonna be a wonderful time. We're gonna get dressed up, the it's a very fancy moment, and we're talking about the book Um Start with Yourself by Emma Greed. Because I think even though we know in the midst of all of what's going on in the world, like we get it, it's full of shit. But what can we be doing with the resources that we currently have, right? So, what do you have now that you can use to change your life? You know, because you're not gonna have every resource up front, but we can get you there. We can start with the things that we have. So, Monday, June 22nd, if you are interested, we'll love to have you. And you could check out the link on my Instagram or my Blooming Affair page.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, we'll put it in the show notes as well.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, put it in the show notes, hey.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, okay, so you just took a trip to California. And um, do you want to tell us about what took place?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so California has been oh, it was wonderful. It was actually unplanned because I had visited California last month for it was during your birthday and during Canva conference. And I was every time I go there, I'm like, should I extend my trip? Should I just extend? And so I had booked or tried to book an Airbnb, but they had canceled it. And so I didn't think I was going to California until last the week before, the Wednesday before the trip. I got a confirmation, like, oh yeah, you're going for excited for your trip. And I was like, I did not pay for this, but I did somehow. So I was like, well, I could either go and yeah, it'll be a partial loss, um, or not go and have it be a full loss. So I went out there to basically research, kind of figure out a little bit more of where I want to live, what I want to do. But also it's just such a it was it's it's always so healing for me to go out there, to be by the beach, to see color, to see um people being creative because I also went to um Paramount Studios, which was so fun. Like just being able to be on set. We went on the set of the rookie, which is basically a cop show. Um, if you've seen it, I've been on the set. So um it was really it's just so cool to be in the midst of what is happening entertainment-wise, but it also made me realize okay, there's a lot of gaps in the industry that I think I could fill in terms of because when you walk in, you see all like it was their hundred-year anniversary. And I was looking at the photo and I was like, there's all these prominent people in here, but there's not really many people of color. I don't even think I saw one or two black women on in that picture, and I was like, that means I need to be out there telling my stories. And so honestly, out of the whole like tour and everything, that was the most prevalent for me. Is like, I need to be telling more stories for people like me because I feel like in Hollywood, it's always if you if there is something with a black woman, it's always something with trauma. And I'm like, girl, I've I've never been to the hood. I don't even I'm a suburban privileged girl, okay? I just want a cute little love story that is very light, airy. I want some fantasy, and so mermaids, fan fairies, all of that. So I just want that to be my thing. And so I realize I need to get into that, but that's a little bit about about me, but I feel like I've been talking so me, mean here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, it was good, it was good to see what you are up to, you know. And we're both trying to make this move out there, and we're both on our own journeys and timelines, and um, you know, I whoever gets there first, you know, like I'm happy for whoever gets there first. It's I I feel like it's not gonna be me financially. I feel like it's just I'm gonna be a little later, but um, I'm not worried about that right now because what's on my mind this week is the Denver Fringe Festival.
SPEAKER_01Denver Fringe.
SPEAKER_00And this is my third Denver Fringe. This is their seventh year. Um, if you don't know what a fringe is, we have talked about it on this podcast, but um, they're all over the world, and the biggest ones in Scotland. And what's funny is that this character for the show was created in Scotland, and it was when I did my first fringe, and I took a road trip after the festival with a stranger that I met on a Facebook group, and she flew out sight unseen, and we got in a car, rented a car, and um we uh drove around Scotland, like the whole country. And um I was gonna drive, I was supposed to be driving because she wasn't legally, she was a lot younger than me, so she couldn't rent the car. So I rented the car, I start driving, something falls out of the car, like I feel like it feels like a part fell out of the car, and I got freaked out. So I was like, Can you just drive for like five minutes? Cause I'm on edge. And she's like, sure. And she drove for the rest of the trip. Um, and as she's driving, I think I kind of felt bad that she was driving, and she was better at it than me because she was from a very small town with like back roads and stuff in like Virginia. So she knew how to drive, like in Scotland with these like switchbacks and like one track roads and stuff. So I felt kind of bad, but I was also like just trying to keep her entertained, and so we'd be driving, and there's no radio, there's no Wi-Fi for and there's nothing, there's nothing to be seen except for like you know, cows and sheep. And I would just start narrating our trip, and for some reason, this narration had a southern accent. And I was like, Well, folks, look here on your left-hand side, you're gonna see a bridge now. This bridge was featured in none other than Lord of the Rings. That's right, and then I would just ramble on about like film locations that weren't real and like celebrity stories that weren't real, and everything was improvised and made up. So this became Darla. And uh Darla goofed around for a number of years. I would do silly tours for friends and family on vacations and in different locations. Um, and then finally, this year, when the Denver Fringe application came out, I was like, I'm gonna give her a full show. And I submitted the show without it being a show. It was a paragraph and a photograph, is what I submitted. And then I got accepted, and then I procrastinated and didn't write the show in I wrote the show in like seven days. Uh, it's silly, it's uh clown forward. So like failure and being uh an idiot on stage is all that it's about. Um, but yeah, she's a tour guide, she is a compulsive liar, she wears a big Dolly partner wig, and I've got three shows this weekend.
SPEAKER_01So when are the shows?
SPEAKER_00Um tonight, Friday, June 5th at 6 p.m. Saturday, June 6th at 6 30, and then Sunday at 5 p.m. And it's at the Bug Theater um down in Rhino. Uh, and if you can make it out to the fringe, even if you don't see my show, if you see any show during the fringe, it's a lot of experimental work. Um, I saw two shows I saw last night were uh my friend David, who does these uh special sound gloves. So he wears these gloves and he can manipulate the sound by doing different things with his hands, and it's it's fascinating. Um, so I saw that show and it had like some storytelling elements to it too. And then I saw a friend uh Soleil's Choose Your Own Adventure, uh Don't Kill Daisy, and she's like this little avatar, and you're supposed to help her stay alive and you throw things at her, and yeah, it's just silly, it's just straight up silly. Uh so there's a lot of fun shows to see at Denver Fringe. Um, someone asked me, they're like, Oh yeah, this is your like fifth fringe, because you've done like a fringe five times, you've done the Edinburgh one twice, and then this one three times, and I was like, Yeah, dang. You're like, actually, yeah, yeah. Um, and I've tried to do some other ones. There's a Minnesota fringe that's a lottery system. Um, I didn't get into the lottery system. I mean, some of them just are run differently. So uh Denver Fringe, I think I'm finally getting, you know, notice I was on TV on Monday. Yeah. Uh, or rather, Darla was on TV. And um, that was super fun. And I have a nicer theater this year, so I'm hoping to fill it out. Um, a show that was in the theater last night sold out, so I'm like hoping that people just are like, I like that show. Let me come to whatever's here tomorrow. Um, so yeah, I'm looking forward to it. A little anxious. I'm really bad at memorizing my lines. So it's gonna be interesting.
SPEAKER_01I think you'll do it. You'll pull it off. You always do.
SPEAKER_00Always pull something off. Yeah. And it's not like the audience knows my lines.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we don't have any, and it's Darla, so you can make it up. You could be like, this girl is Beyoncé. Every time I go to like a video, look, Beyonce's here.
SPEAKER_00That's great. If I just forget, I'll just look at someone in the audience and call them Beyonce. That's fantastic. Uh yeah, so that's been the main thing. Um this this week. We had our kickoff, um, and everyone did like a speed preview of like 30 seconds of their show. I just want to see every single show. There's like, and it's impossible because there's like 83 shows.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It's like, and you could actually get a pass where you can go to see as many shows as you as you'd like. And that's nice because then you could literally go see as many as you'd like, and it's all under one pass. Because typically the shows are around 20, but honestly, it's worth it having the pass. I remember going last year and just it's it I was very amazed at the amount of talent that we have, and just so many people who are so creative in different ways. I saw some of that guy's um hands that are the manipulating hands, which is really cool. And then Mimi's last year was blew me out of the blew me away. So it's really cool to see. Um, but yeah, definitely check it out if you're in Denver this weekend because you're gonna have the time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think you know, if you're an artist and you're curious about fringe, just submit. Like, just try. And that's David uh with gloves. Um, he came and saw my first two shows in 2023 and 2024, and it he said it inspired him. And he is he's a performer, he's a musician, but he had never like done like a one-man show. And so he submitted to 2025 and didn't tell me. And then I found out on the programming, and I wasn't in that year. I didn't do last year, I did the two years prior. And I was like, David, what do you do? He's like, Yeah, you inspired me. So, you know, like it's if you even have an inkling of wanting to do a one-person show, or if you want to get together a group um and do a play or something experimental, um try it. You know, there's dancers, there's cabaret, there's clowns. Um, and the cool thing about at least Denver Fringe is they give you opportunities throughout the year to interact with Denver Fringe. And so, like, even before this show was done and written um last month, or maybe it was two months ago, I had an opportunity to take 30 minutes of my show and show it to some other fringe artists in like a little venue and then get feedback on the show. So that was really helpful for me to shape the show. Because you I feel like I can only shape the show by other people seeing it and telling me what they think. So that's why I'm really nervous about this show because it's never been seen by anybody. And in the 30 minutes I showed for that test audience, um, is not didn't, isn't in the show essentially. It was it helped me get to where I needed to go writing-wise, and I was like, oh, I can't improvise for an hour. Like I found that out that night because initially Darla was all improvised, and so she had a couple pillars of her story that remained the same. Like she's got these dead husbands that are weird, and like you think maybe she killed them. Like just like, what, Darla? Um, so you know she has dead husbands, you know, she's she's an actress and she claims she's in all these films, and so I had certain things I knew about her. Um, but I was always improvising with the set and what was in the theater. And so I found out that night at the test audience that I run out of steam at about 20 minutes. And I was like, I cannot improvise this whole show. I have to write the show like I did every other show I did. So it's a full script, it's a full story. Um, and if I lose my way, I will improvise. But I told my tech people, if I start to go astray, just click the next button on the slide deck and I will hopefully find my way back. Um so yeah, I think it's a great opportunity for people to try something new, to see something new if you're even not like a performer, if you just want to see art. Um and and they're in almost every city. I mean, so if you're not in Denver, like go look up Orlando Fringe, go look up San Diego Fringe, Philly Fringe.
SPEAKER_01LA has theirs coming up, too.
SPEAKER_00Hollywood fringe is coming up. Um, and so you know, I wish I could do all of them. They do end up getting expensive. You know, you have to pay for the venue. Um, for at least Denver Fringe, you get like a ticket, a cut of the tickets. Um, but it's different for every fringe, you know, like some are better organized than others. Um I have a few performer friends who just did um, I think it was San Diego, and they're like, Oh, that was a lot, like that was hard, you know, that was not what I expected. So you don't really know what you're getting into either, in terms of how many years this fringe has been independently organized. Um, but the Scott Scotland one is what 75 years old. So um, you know, that's that's the big one.
SPEAKER_01Why is it called fringe? Do you know?
SPEAKER_00That's a good question. I think it became called fringe because initially it started with people who were not in the traditional theater because like theater is pretty prestigious, right? Yeah, and so there were these other performers on the fringe, quote unquote, on the fringe of society. And they weren't in the productions that were getting the money and the funds and the awesome, you know, venues. So they started pop-ups essentially, and they popped up these venues in a bar, in a library, in a this, in a that, in a warehouse. And that became fringe. And so it's it's bring your own venue, make it a venue, you know, um, bring your audience. Um, you know, it became this like place for people on the outside who weren't allowed to really be in the high society theater productions. So it's got a cool background. I think now it's it's very commercialized. It's a bit more, you know, it costs so much money for performers to do a fringe show. So you really have to like, I've run Kickstarters to get there. I've worked for people, I've gotten my flight paid for by other performers, you know, like I've gotten free places to stay. You have to kind of like fight for it. And so I'm not financially ready to do another big fringe. Um, but I'd love to. I mean, you know, it's I've done my other shows there, so I don't see why I wouldn't do Darla there as well. But um, especially for this show, there's a lot more tech involved. There's a slide deck behind me, there's sound cues, there's um light changes, you know. So I did that on purpose because I wanted a nice theater that I could have those tech elements, but in years past, I have a desk lamp, and that is my stage lighting. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's like very DIY. Um, so that's a spirit fringe, and that's kind of the roots of it. But obviously, it's very, it's very expensive now. Performers used to be able to just like show up and do a show and like they would make money off of it. Now you're lucky if you break even because the venue costs you so much money. So um, you know, it's tough. I'm a little jelly. I always get jealous every time I'm not going to the big fringe and I see other people going. I'm like, me, I want to do it. You'll be there. Um, but yeah, in in due time, maybe 2027 is the year. But um, you know, we got a lot on our plate too. It's like, I don't know how to get through the rest of the year with all these plans and all these different things I want to do. Um, I usually do a writing retreat in the fall as well. So um that's something I need to start planning after Denver Fringe. But I try to do things one at a time. I'm not very good at it, but like, you know, I'm trying to tell myself to find out.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to do one at a time too, but it's hard.
SPEAKER_00Very difficult, you know, and you want to do everything. Like, I want to be in every fringe. Every time I see someone in a different city doing a different fringe, I want to be there too. Um so you have to you have to be mindful of that and not get jealous. You know, you're on your own journey.
SPEAKER_01Um do we need another, another, another video, another podcast episode about staying staying your lane. Not staying in our lane, but like understanding our journey is for set for us.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, probably. Um, social media makes it really hard too. Even with this festival, I'm like, oh my god, so-and-so had a sold-out audience. I've only sold X amount of tickets so far. You know, it's like, stop, stop that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, because even one person, like that's what I have to remember about fringe too, is like in the big fringe, nobody, it might be, it's a good chance that no one's gonna show up to your show. Because there's quite literally thousands of shows, and so you might have to cancel a show because nobody shows up, and that would happen all the time. It happened to me once, but I knew other people would happen too consistently, and that's just the way it is. And so, if you even have one person in your crowd, you're gonna give them the show of your life. You know, and so I try not to get caught up in like, oh, I've only sold those nail tickers, you know, like um, because also I I'm really insecure about like. People don't show up for me. And so, like being a performer, everybody wants to come to my shows, and everyone says they want to come to my shows. And you're, you know, you're a comedian, and then someone's like, Oh my God, I want to come to your shows. Even I meet strangers and they want to come to my shows because they find out I'm a comedian. And then you're like, hey, here's my show. And they're like, Yeah, can't do that, can't come, you know, for whatever reason. This is not about me. You know, but I feel a sort of way when people drop off.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then, you know, I'm like, you guys said you wanted to show up, and I'm giving you a chance, and you're not here. Um so I have a really hard time with that in terms of like who's showing up for me and feeling like that reflects on me when it has actually nothing to do with me.
SPEAKER_01That's a very um hard thing because actually this whole year this past couple weeks with Blooming Affair, I felt similar-ish um in terms of oh my god, oh my god. I've actually never really sold things before because in 2024 we did it for free. But I was putting in like 20 hours a week between me and my other um, my other coworker who we worked on it together. We were each putting in a good amount of time, and so my mentor was like, you need a charge. And I was like, Do I? Do I, you know, but we're I'm I'm actually learning that this is an insecurity of mine to ask people for money and to ask people for what I'm worth. And I'm like, I've been putting in hours this week for just to make this these events. I really care about them because I'm like, I know how I feel, and I know how I need this type of community that's not just gonna be like here, but they are elevating me, right? They're taking me to the next level. But I had it's literally taken me three weeks to set up the tickets.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I just sent them out literally two weeks ago or last night or two nights ago, and I haven't told anybody because I'm scared to sell. And um, I don't know why. I'm still learning why that is. I think I'm learning, gosh, as a business owner and an artist, my God, is that the uh growth that you are learning within yourself? Uh the growth journey that you're learning within yourself, self-growth, yes, that you're learning. Because I've never, I've never, I didn't know that this was gonna be such a hurdle for me. And I didn't know, I didn't know why. I didn't realize I'm gonna have to go back and see why do you have this hard time asking for money? And then I'm like over here, like, you have a course? Let me give you all my money, you know? Right. So why exactly? So then I'm like, why can't I think that people would invest in what I have to say and my expertise? And that's been the question of the last couple weeks. I've been journaling about it and I still don't know.
SPEAKER_00And maybe it's might even be something all the way back to childhood. It is definitely like I know it is, but I definitely as a my insecurity, I think, for like people don't show up is like repeated exposure to like, you know, and comparing myself, right? So it's like, oh, so-and-so gets a sold-out crowd, and then I ask people and I get two people to show up, like what happened to where's my sold-out crowd? And so I get a little kind of in my head about like, oh, I deserve, and I do, I do deserve a sold-out crowd, you know, but like it comes with time and it comes when it's supposed to. And I have sold out certain audiences. And what's funny too is like at the big fringe, I had a sold-out show, and the next day nobody showed up.
SPEAKER_01Wow. And I canceled.
SPEAKER_00And I took a little picture, I took a picture of the sold-out crowd and all of us, you know, a little selfie. And the next day I took another selfie of the empty seats. And so it's like, you know, that's part of the journey though. Like it's you ask any comedian, performer, you know, professional in the entertainment industry, and they've had nobody show up for them. So it's like, I'm right on track. If you think about it like that, I'm right on track, and as are you, because you're getting nervous about, you know, who's gonna come, how are they gonna get there, are they gonna pay? Are they gonna walk out? You know, like that's part of being a business owner and stepping through that and saying, if someone's turned away by the price of this, they're not my person. You know, even though I want them to be there and I want to like dip the price down to accommodate them, because I know times are hard, but like you still deserve that full ticket price, and you're gonna put that price out there, and the right people are gonna go, yes, just like you grab things and you want to spend money on an event or whatever it is, whatever it is, right? And you respect that person's artistry, right? Whether it's you're buying a service or you're buying an experience, like you know the value of it. And so if someone doesn't know the value of it, that's why they're not showing up. Exactly. And that's why people don't come to my shows, is because they don't get it and they haven't seen me yet. And so, like, you are gonna show up every time because you know the kind of comedy I do and you're the big fan, whereas other people maybe don't have that experience yet and just see me online and they're like, oh well, you know, yeah, maybe. Um, but to me, I'm like, come on, like I need you, I need you to show up for me. Um, but they're not they're not my person.
SPEAKER_01And it's yeah, that's the hard part. It's you're truly finding your audience, your people who who see what you do and believe in what it is that you do. And it's crazy because you're real you start to realize no one's gonna believe in yourself more than you. Yes. And that's been really interesting to figure out these past. I mean, I've always been figuring it out, but this past week alone has been really eye-opening. Like, I've gotta, I have to believe in myself. Like, I have to believe in the thing that I'm I'm um producing because and I do, and it's like you're finding the people who see it, believe it, and align with it as well. And so it's truly finding that audience that aligns with what you're saying, what you're doing, what you're performing. And it's hard to find that audience, it takes time, and I'm realizing that as well. And it's also made me more vulnerable and off and real because I was not authentic. I know I almost did because well, because everybody says authentic, so I was like, let me just say, yeah, real quick. But yes, authentic because especially I finally announced that I'm like trying to move to California, and I told Mimi last week, I'm not, I don't tell people stuff, I just usually do it quietly and then do it. But it's actually been helpful because now I've met people, I've gotten advice, I've gotten a bunch of things, and it did come with the negative side, unfortunately. But on honestly, like now I feel like people, because they know my goals, they can further help me. And so I want to be able to do that. But it was very scary saying it, but it also has been real a relief to say it out loud because now when I'm posting my content about look, I'm trying to move to California, like people get it. Now they're like, Oh, how can I help her? Or oh, that's why her content's like this. Before I was like hiding it, and now I could just be more free in the content that I'm producing when I'm talking about this because it's literally what's happening, so I don't have to like hide or pretend that I'm not trying to move because I'm like trying to be gone, you know?
SPEAKER_00Right, and you can't manifest what you don't speak out, exactly. Yeah, and so whether or not people respond to it positively, like you just saying for yourself out loud, I am making this goal for myself, it's gonna help you manifest it. Same thing with me. If I say I'm gonna get a full crowd, like I'm gonna work towards getting a full crowd. Um, and so part of that is just like you said, believing in yourself first and trusting the timing of it and how it's gonna come together, and then also dealing with the negativity that comes with whatever that is. And again, that's not about us.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's definitely about them.
SPEAKER_00That's somebody in their comfort zone who is threatened by your, dare I say, authenticity.
SPEAKER_01And by you trying, and by you putting yes, being authentic and putting yourself out there, and that and it's very important because I'm realizing you cannot their opinions don't matter because they're not doing anything with their lives. Their opinions don't matter, yeah, because they're not trying. And I'm over here trying, you're over here trying, we're trying.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, and now the people know.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. Now they know. So if you got any Southern California recs for both Mimi and I, let us know.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Do you have any leads on any fringes I should try? Um, and yeah, we'd love to see you this weekend if you're in Denver. Um, come see the Denver Fringe. Get curious about fringe, get curious about whatever you're working on as an artist. There may be something coming up that could help you display your art or help you grow as a as a person. So yes. Well, I gotta go to therapy and talk about my trauma, so we gotta go. We are the girls next for bye.