EP14: Building a Resume

Do we know how to hold a gun? No. Do we look like we have a teenage son? Also no. On today’s episode Vanessa builds her resume on a film set with DMX. Mimi tries her hand at acting in a student film. With every new gig, we have new skills to learn and new additions to our resumes. Also. Heated Rivalry. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello, I'm Vanessa Simone.

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And I'm Mimi Hayes.

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And we are the Girls Next Four.

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Do you know it? Episode 13 coming to you live from the studio.

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Studio. One A in Vanessa's bedroom.

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What's what's uh on the menu today, Lee?

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We are talking about your resume as an artist.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Okay, what does the resume mean to you? Like, what does that bring up for you when you hear the word resume?

SPEAKER_02 0:34

Typically, I think of the corporate world, to be honest. Um, all of the things that you've done with your corporate job or anything. However, we're not talking about the corporate resume today.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Thank goodness. Nah. No way, Jose. Um, yeah, we were actually downstairs a few minutes ago working on our acting, uh, modeling, performing, uh, content creating resumes.

SPEAKER_02 1:05

Right. So we each realize, you know, we need to get more gigs and build our resumes to actually land some of the gigs that we want to work on. So, for instance, I want to gain more acting gigs, and I want to get more, yeah, more acting gigs, more you content creation gigs, and more voiceover gigs. I've always wanted to do a voiceover in a movie or something. Right?

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Doesn't that sound like so much?

SPEAKER_02 1:32

It sounds like so much fun, and especially a kid movie or kid TV show. I would love that. I would eat that up. But I realized as we were building our resumes, which by the way, if you don't, you should make a profile on backstage and just start looking at jobs that they have. But that's where the whole resume came from today because we were building our profiles on backstage, which I did not realize. But backstage actually, you can be a content creator or an influencer, you could be a voiceover, you could be crew production. They have different profiles for each one. So definitely sign up if you are a creative because you might be missing out on opportunities. But back to the story. We were creating our resumes on backstage, and as we were doing this, we each realized a couple things. One, we do a lot of different things. Yeah, each of us have so many different skills that started to come up, but also within those skills, I realized I don't have as much expertise in all of these skills, and it's making me realize I need to enhance some of my skill set.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

Yeah, if I may quote you, you said uh I gotta get my shit together is what you said. Yeah. Um, which I also I had a backstage profile when I was living in LA. I booked one student film, and I was I just watched my audition tape from that student film. And I was trying to play a mom of a teenager. I look like a teenager. This babyface as a mom. Absolutely babyface. And I had my roommate Jed uh be my reader for this audition, and I just watched it because I I it stores it when you submit something, it stores it inside backstage, and I hadn't seen it in four years. So I went and clicked on it, and I was like, hey, you're good at acting. You put even though you don't look old enough to have a teenager, I believe you. You have a teenager. Okay. I believed it. I thought, wait, Amy, when did you have a kid? Yeah, I was 15 when I had a child. Um, so I did this student film, I booked it on on backstage. It was my first film. Um, that and it was a student film, but I really had to get over that. Like I had to just be like, a gig is a gig. And when you are trying to build your resume, you need everything that you can get. You need a student film, you need a nobody who's doing a feature for the first time, you need to get on set. And I was on set, and get this. This was my biggest takeaway from doing a film for the first time. And it was a short film, it wasn't a feature, but um there's this role on set called a script supervisor. And their whole job is to tell you to stop doing what you're doing because you're doing it wrong. And by that I mean every take, right? Say I have a line and my line is, are you on drugs? Because that was one of the lines from the monologue. Are you on drugs? So say I say that line that I put my hands up, right? Are you on drugs? So we do that take and then they say cut, right? Then we do it from another angle or I do it again. But this time I don't put my hands up. I just go, Are you on drugs? And then the script supervisor waddles on over. And they're like, Hey, last time you put your hands up. This time you did not. Put your hands up again. And I had no idea. She was just telling me where to put my limbs, and it's for continuity because you and sometimes you can catch it in films when they don't have a good script supervisor. Is in one shot you see a body part or something in a certain place, and then the next shot it's not there anymore when it's supposed to be, right? Right for the viewer to sustain the reality that you're in, right? But I was like, wow, what a what a thing, you know, what a role on the on a on a set to have is to just be like, hey, what you're doing, stop that. Remember how you did it five takes ago? I want you to commit to that and do it every single time. And for me as an improviser and like my experience of changing everything up all the time, it was so different for me to have to stick to one thing. Because maybe I didn't like it the first way I did it. Maybe I was like, oh, I can do it differently. I'll try it differently. And they're like, nope, you will not. Nope.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

They want it, yeah, because they want that consistency within the scene. And if you're ever looking at TV shows or movies, like you said, sometimes you can catch it. But I remember I was on a movie set for it, it was called The Chronicles of a Silver Serial Killer.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

DMX was in it, it was shot in this what is it called? In the forest of a um, what is it, Boy Scouts old campsite? It was terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Didn't they like pick you up in a van?

SPEAKER_02 6:23

They picked me up in a van, yes. I remember it was a rainy day in Brooklyn. We and I was desperate, okay, you guys. I was so desperate for a job that I was I said, I will do anything, even if it's for food. They weren't paying me, they were paying us in food, okay? Yeah, and I remember signing up through Craigslist of all things, but Craigslist was more reputable in New York City than it is anywhere else.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

So a good detail to mention, yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

So to the outside world, Craigslist seems like that's where you go to basically sign up to be murdered. But in New York City, this is a legitimate platform, very legit. And so I signed up through Craigslist, and I remember getting the job. I was so excited because the job that I got, it was actually not on set or to do acting or anything, but it was to be help with props. And I was elated. I said, I will take anything I could get. This is so exciting. The day comes, they're picking us up at like 4 a.m. in this white van, literally a murderer van. It's so shady. I remember getting down to Flatbush, getting picked up like next to a Starbucks. It's pouring rain outside. I meet this lady who's like the producer or whatever. She's always on the phone. She's like, Oh, hey, are you here for the movie? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I said yes. And then we she keeps talking on the phone because she has all these different people that she's coordinating. We get onto the white minivan and we drive our way to Staten Island, and we start. It was the scariest ride, too, because first of all, because it was rainy, the bridge was foggy and everything. I swore I'm in a van with all of these strangers. This is my last gig I'll ever have. This might be this might be it for me. This might be the last gig I ever had. And so we get to Staten Island, we get to this abandoned Boy Scouts camp, and we start getting out of the vehicles and everything, and start unloading the unloading the trucks and everything. And I remember having to wait for the actual prop manager to arrive because they weren't there yet. So we waited around for like an hour and a half. Finally, this lady shows up in another white van, mind you. Something with the white vans. And this lady shows up, and the producer lady is like, the pro the the prop person is here. So we make it down to the minivan. She's handing us props, and we have to bring it up to the campsite, the main campsite, where we're laying out all the props for all of the different scenes. And then uh this lady, the prop lady, something was messed with her head. This woman was not all up here. She was not all there because she handed me this huge duffel bag full of what? Full of guns. And was like, okay, you are gonna give the safety training for the guns for all of the cops in the TV or in the TV show or the movie. And I was uh, excuse me, first of all, I have never held a gun in your life ever in my life until this moment.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

These were real guns. These were real guns. Were they loaded?

SPEAKER_02 9:40

They couldn't have been no, they were not loaded, but honestly, like me being inexperienced, how would I know how would I know how to open it or hold it?

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

Hold it, or I never had a training. I the only thing I've seen is what's on TV and how they hold it. Don't point it at your head, you know.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Is that what you said? Step one.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Don't so I get up to the I get up up, bring this giant duffel bag of guns to the to the campsite main area where they have all the tables of the props, and I'm like taking the guns out one by one. I'm so careful because I'm terrified. Taking them out and putting them down, and so the other lady was like, I'm gonna round up all the troops for the safety training. Mind you, I have no experience. I have never held a gun. Why am I gonna be the one to give the safety training? Me? So finally I start giving the training and I pick up like one of the smaller guns. I can't even tell you what it is, guys. I don't know guns. And these are the actors who were playing cops, a lot of them were actual cops too. And so as I start, I'm saying, okay, guys, so don't point it at anybody's face, don't point it at your face. Just the obvious. They could tell that I was terrified.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

And so finally, one of the guys was like, You've never held a gun before, have you? And I said, No, I have not. I haven't. The jig is up. And he was like, Do you want me to give the safety training? I was like, Yes, please. And I basically ran out of there back to the props van to go find the other props. Um, but during that whole time, so first of all, a lot of things are very unuh organized. Organized and unprofessional.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

Yeah. In some reasons, that's the understatement of the century. Um, it's there's so many moving parts to a film, there's so many people, there's so many roles and lines of command, you know, chains of command. And um, you're just trying to stay out of the way most of the time. I mean, that's how I felt like just don't get in the way of anybody, just shut up, do what you're told, and get out of the way. Right. You know, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

But one thing going back to your continuity of the scenes is all of those police officers had special badges. So us as props people had to make sure that they had the same badge every single day, because every single day that they sh we shot, we had to make sure all the props were in the proper place. If you had smoked a cigarette and then you put it down, where was the cigarette? If you had the cup holding like this, you needed. And so it actually, if you are somebody who is very good at paying attention to detail, a prop manager or even the script supervisor. Script supervisor would be such a great job for you because you have to have that eye and remember the continuity because the viewer is gonna notice. And so that was something that I learned, and also from that working on that movie, also learning about how kind of going off what you were saying, how there's so many moving parts, and you have to be on top of whatever role it is that you're in, you have to be on top of it, you have to pay attention, and you have to make sure that the scenes are moving and flowing properly. And then also I ended up with a tiny role in that in that movie as Carlos.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Carlos? Yes, shut up.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Back then I had a little mini afro, and they were like, You're gonna play Carlos the other cop. So I was Carlos in a serial killer movie.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Did you have a line?

SPEAKER_02 13:32

It was one line, I think. What it was either a line or I just nodded. Honestly, it was so minuscule, but I did learn I'm gonna go find I know I I'm gonna find this and find you. Yeah, and DMX was in it, and rest in peace, maybe rest is rest in peace. It was crazy because everybody was going up to him, and I'm not. We had the celebrity talk, but I'm not the best at celebrities. You were like, I couldn't. I was just like, Oh, you are I was literally talking to DMX like it was nothing. I was just like, Oh yeah, what's up? Oh, you're so good with the gun, you know? Like you're so good with this. But like in that moment, everybody's going up to him. I was like, I have no idea who that is. And so we're talking, and um him and I are talking, and then people are coming up, and then eventually he walks away, and people keep going up to him, and somebody's like, That was DMX, and then I heard remembered the song, and I was like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe I just loved the DMX. Y'all gonna make me lose my mind. Up in here, up in here. So, yeah, um, rest in peace, DMX. You were so sweet to work with, and um you were very kind.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Yeah, so that is something you're gonna put on your resume. Yes, oh my gosh, it's all connected, don't we? It's all connected. I'm keeping the thread. I got the thread. We got it. No, listen, like we were talking downstairs about all the little things you remember over the years. Oh, I did that. Oh, I did that, oh, and you're asking, like, does this count? It all counts if you know, because you never know what skills are looking for. You never know something I I I can't remember if I told this story before. Maybe I just sent you this as a TikTok, but um, there's an actress, and she was cast in the Bear, the TV show The Bear, which is all about being in a kitchen. And I can't personally watch it because there's too much yelling on the show and it stresses me out. But I hear it's a very good show, and it's about you know being a chef and being in in the kitchen. And this actress worked in a kitchen for like six yeah, I own for like six, seven years, and um I can only imagine how frustrating that could be when you are really an actress and you don't want to be in a kitchen, but it ended up booking her that gig because she knew what she was doing in the kitchen because she was in the kitchen, so you just don't know what those skills are that you're gonna be asked of. And in terms of building your resume, you might want to book a couple small things so you can get the bigger thing down the line, even if it's unpaid, even you know, just take it as it is. This is me building my resume, and I'm gonna put it there, and it's gonna be for me to get my credits and get my experience. And then you never know. That could be the thing that down the line they're like, oh, you did this, that's awesome! Like, let's get you on this one. Um, so yeah, like your resume V is very fashion model content, and you're looking to grow in acting, writing, uh, producing, directing, you know. So how you you thinking you're gonna go about getting those things on your resume?

SPEAKER_02 16:54

Yeah. Well, one of the beautiful things about being on the content creator side is sometimes when you have a brand, they want you to script out your whole the whole ad or the whole um yeah, the whole ad for them. And so in a way, I'm trying to take those skills and transfer them. But one way I want to increase my resume is a by finding more acting kids, even if they're local, um, also by finding more voiceovers to do or even some acting classes to take, and even just small projects that people might be working on. You had mentioned a really good idea downstairs, but having if you reach out to schools and colleges who are working on their projects who might need some actors or actresses or talent, reaching out to them to see if you can be a part of their their plays, even local plays, anything to just get my foot in the door is gonna be helpful. And then on the writing and producing side, I definitely need to be writing a lot more, and thank goodness for the artist's way we're going through morning pages, which has been helpful because it really gets you in the in the habit of continuously writing and writing and getting your ideas out onto paper, and then also reading, because reading is how enhances your imagination. So those are just a few more ways. And I know for you, because you also similarly want to do more producing, but you have a lot more experience.

SPEAKER_01 18:33

It's funny because some of these experiences on the page look impressive, but in reality, they were maybe small. And I think it's important to note that the person looking at your resume doesn't know that you had a bag full of guns and were trying to explain how to use them when you didn't know. You're not putting that part on the resume, you're putting, I was I was featured in a film with DMX. Yeah. And I was a prop manager and I was a cast member, you know. And um that's what you put on the resume. And so, like, you know the story behind it, and you might be like, oh, it's not really that big of a deal, but it is a big deal because it's on the resume. They don't know, you know, like I did I did a production in Scotland. Um, I was in a theater troupe and we practiced on Tuesdays and we practiced in a library, and we were a bunch of adults, and all had jobs, and none of us were professional actors. We just love theater. We wrote the show ourselves, it was not a hit, you know. We wrote it and uh we did, you know, some shows, and they did each sell out, you know, in a small venue. But just the fact that I performed overseas is impressive, right? And they don't they don't need to know or care that it was a hobbyist group, it was not, you know, professional theater. Like, no, like to us it was it was real, and so you just have to double down and be like, yes, this is real and valid and impressive. And I have the hardest time with that because I do have some impressive impressive things on my resume, but I look past them for some reason because I always want the next best thing to be on my resume. So I'm never thinking back to wow, you did a TED talk and that was the coolest thing you'd ever done at that point. I'm like, oh so what? That was in the past, no one's seen it, nobody cares. Um, it's TED. It's a TED talk. Like you say that word to anybody, they know what you're talking about. They know what it is. So, regardless of the reality of it, you have to kind of pump yourself up and really just go there with yourself and be like, this is impressive, and it deserves to be on my resume.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

Yes, and I think as artists, we definitely undermine the things that we've done, like you said, because I'm over here like, wow, Mimi, you have a whole stacked resume. You should be on flea bag tomorrow, you know? And she's like, Nah, no, and it's it is funny because we definitely undermine everything we do. Because I was sitting down there saying, This doesn't count, this doesn't count, this doesn't count, but it does count. Every little thing does count, and it makes you realize how much experience goes into your dreams that you're trying to create and how much you have done that is getting toward it, but also taking credit, but also knowing there you can hold space for you know having gratitude for the past, but also wanting something big and better, too.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

And it, you know, the saying is it takes 10 years to become an overnight success.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

And I would say that's even an outdated number. I would say it takes maybe 20 years at this point to become an overnight success. And we're seeing that right now with um the heated rivalry boys. Right. Those cute little gay boys. Right. I love them. They're so funny. And they were nobodies. And Connor's story was working in a restaurant and almost got fired because of some mistake he made. And he got the call from his agent later that day that he had gotten the part and then he quit the job and now he's ultra famous. And everybody wants a piece of him, you know. But he was just like you and me. And he had been acting for years. He didn't even go to classes. He's actually has gone to the clown class where I went. So I share that with him. We took the same clown class, you know. So he studied comedy and he studied theater and he went to classes and he took roles and he he did student films. And the end of the day, you look at that and you're like, hey, it's possible, you know. You build your resume for long enough, you're gonna hit the jackpot at some point. It's just it's your time is your time. It has to happen. You can't rush it, but it's good to build and grow in the meantime while you're kind of waiting. And don't feel like you're waiting for your big shot, but just like I'm building towards it, right?

SPEAKER_03 23:00

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

Every tiny role, every small experience will lead me to my ultimate goal.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

And even going off of that, Connor had I saw an interview, I don't know if it was Seth Myers or whoever he was interviewing, but he used to love languages, and so that's how he started, he started to learn Russian, and it's wild because I swear I thought he was Russian, but he's not at all. He just he learned it, he learned it, and it's fascinating that if you love something, you should go after it because you never know what it might turn into. He was doing it out of the love for the language, and he learned it, of course, but it got that role, yeah, and he probably had no idea it would land him a Russian actor role. So it's important to notice the things that you love and enjoy doing, keep doing them because you never know what the things you love doing could actually lead to. So and it's also really funny watching their interviews because Hudson is way more sexual. Oh yeah, and Connor is the innocent one, but Armstrong's.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

He's always smiling. I know that's their their characters were always switched, right? Because uh Connor plays the kind of broody Russian hockey player, and then you know, when he's off camera, when he's just himself, he's always smiling, like an always.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

And when they're interviewing together and Hudson's saying some outlandish, crazy sexual thing, Connor's like his eyes get big and he's almost in shock.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

I'm like, you're the one, you're literally acting this TV show. Yeah, no, I'm so happy for them. I have heard also that they are getting a little bit of pushback from Hollywood because there are actors who've been doing this for a lifetime and they're a little frustrated that these new young bucks are coming in and taking all the attention. And to that I say, screw you guys. Like new blood, new bloods and new talent, and there's always a place for you. Like, there's it's never like, oh, well, there's too many actors already. Like, no, there's a place for you in a commercial, in a production, in whatever. Like, there's a place for you, there's a spot for you. You just have to ride it out long enough to find it, you know, and to have the confidence in yourself, even when nobody else does, even when you're working in a kitchen, you're gonna get fired, like you're still hustling, you're still going on backstage, and you're still applying and trying your best. And that's all that we can do at the end of the day, is just try our best.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

Absolutely. And to go off of that, you know, with Connor and Hudson being newbies who aren't Nepo babies or whatever in the industry, the people want that. They're showing what we they want. And so I think, especially in this new day and age with social media, with all of these other things, it is important to continue to do the things that you love doing because you truly do not know when an opportunity will arise, but also you you gain like the world wants something new, they want new stories. They don't want this. We have so many sequels, we have so many.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Oh, you mean people don't want Sharknado 5?

SPEAKER_02 26:21

Right.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

You know, this weird ass film that makes no sense that obviously some Nepo baby got to pitch in a meeting and got to make it. Yeah, we don't want that. Yeah, nobody wants that.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

We are we people are tired of that and they want something new and they want something innovative, they want their stories being told, and so that's why I'm really glad that Heated Rivalry is doing so well because it's telling telling Hollywood or whatever. This is what the people want. We want new stories. I mean, I haven't been represented in a an action movie besides Black Panther, and so my dream is to play specifically Nubia, which is Wonder Woman's like long-lost sister, in an action film, because I think that would be such a badass character to play. Um, that's partially why I lift a lot. Uh-huh. But I want to see new stories about people who I don't hear about. I I we're we're tired of the same old, the same old. We don't, and quite frankly, we don't care. Like, I don't even watch, I didn't even know Sharknado 5 was coming out.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

I I just made that up, but it could be. It very much it does, it wouldn't shock me.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

Yeah, it wouldn't shock me or whatever. Number five, number six, number seven. We I don't I don't care. I don't care. There are, and with there being billions of people in the world, the fact that we don't have more stories out there is shocking to me, actually. And it also goes to show there is a place for everyone. I mean, there is an abundance of people, there's an abundance of flowers, there's an abundance of books. Who's to say that you're not able to put your work out there? You know?

SPEAKER_01 28:04

So if anything, even to create your own content, I think we should have a whole episode on just not waiting to be greenlit. Green light yourself, make your own content, make a silly video, make a short film. You know, we're gonna be doing that soon here too. Just making our own content because it's your body of work. And uh you're gonna see it grow. You're like there are things I did 10 years ago that I cringe at, you know, there's things I did yesterday that I cringe at, okay? Yeah, but you're always improving, and you're as you age and as you go through different experiences, you know, I feel like you have depth and you grow, you know. There's there's a whole side of my career that would not have been possible without me going through a ton of shit. Right. And, you know, battling for my life. Like I I now feel that drama that I I could actually call into an audition now is like, oh, just remember when you almost died. That's all. Just remember that. Just think about being in the MRI machine. Okay, got it, good. You know, and then I can go from there and just access that part of myself. So all your experiences are your resume. You are a living resume, and um you got to keep feeding it, you got to keep growing and feeding it. And every, I would say even every six months, go into your resume. And as you do things, I think this is a good tip. As you're doing them, put them in the resume.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Every time you finish a gig, put it in the resume, right? Every single time, because what you don't want is what we're doing, which is backtracking 10 years and go, oh, what did I do 10 years ago? Um, so it's always good to update your resume as as often as you can, refresh it, put a new design on it, you know, be creative. Like that's something I love so much about being an artist is our resumes look cool as hell. Like, even just from a visual standpoint, and they'd get kicked out from AI. If I were to upload that resume for a corporate job, it wouldn't even be so good. It wouldn't even because there's too much cool shit on it. You just get popped out, you know. But that's that's fine because I'm not trying to fit in that box, you know. I want someone to be able to look at my resume and say, wow, you have such a great career behind you, right? Ahead of you, and we're excited to have you on board, you know, and yeah, why we've got bright futures, V. You and I, we got a bright future. I want to do one more thing before uh we we tap out for the day. I want to maybe add this segment to our podcast, which is the broke girl wins. Yes, and I want to end on a win um that we had recently. Um, I'll go first. I booked a speaking gig, a comedy speaking gig. So I'm getting paid to do stand-up at in an auditorium at a community college, and they're gonna have my face on the screen behind me on a jumbo drum. I'm so excited. I feel like a real boy, like a real artist. Um, so that's my win. I'm super excited, and that's that's in March.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

So what's your win? I'm so excited for you. Gosh, um, now that we're reflecting, I forgot everything I've done this week. Let's see. I think I don't really, I don't know that I have a win. I'm just like very grateful, and I think that's a win right now because I'm in the process of realizing how much I need to do. So I'm and I'm okay with that. I'm realizing, oh, I need to um I need to expand my resume. And it's good that I know that now because now I have a plan of action. Instead of scrolling TikTok, I should be in an acting class or something, you know?

SPEAKER_01 31:51

So that's a huge win. It is because once you know that, you can't unknow that. Right. You know, now every time you're on TikTok, you're gonna be like, should I be self-taping right now? Should I be taking a headshot? Should I be doing this? And that's pretty powerful because that can get you some momentum, you know, as an artist, is to have a goal ahead of you and uh looking for the next gig.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Yeah. Actually, okay, I do have another win. I'm going to Canva Conference. We're both going.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

So hopefully, if you are creative, we'll see you there.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Yeah, we're gonna pick up some skills and network the hell out of that thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see you, we'll see you there. And this has been the girls next for